Fall 2009 Newslettr

Randy opened the meeting a little past six with a review of the AFSA Convention in san Diego. He spoke about the value of the courses as well as the trade show and the all around good time and camaraderie. Bill seconded al Randy had to say with both recommending that anyone who hasn’t gone doesn’t know the value of what they’ve been missing. Chuck agreed and all were extremely enthusiastic. It’s been ten years since I’ve had an opportunity to go and I must admit I’d forgotten just how valuable I found it back then and I think it was even better this time. Thanks to the membership for helping to make it possible for me to go.
Of course the economy was a topic of conversation. the consensus: It’s bad. Bill said his business is down 50%. Most of the contractors agreed that they were spending about 30% more time chasing jobs to land 50% less than last year. The wage surveys are supposed to be out in Eastern Washington. Keep your eyes open. Don’t let this opportunity to influence prevailing wage go by.
The Burn Trailer is complete. Knight Fire gave the State a very attractive bid to install the fire protection systems and ran into some pretty high cost overruns, mostly due to the SFM’s office not having a really good idea of what they wanted in the end. The members present voted to apply for a matching grant to reimburse Knight for these overruns (Bill Cunningham making the motion, and Rick Sigmen seconding, after a bit of confusion regarding Robert’s Rules, with the members present voting unanimously to support the effort.) I’m happy to report that the grant was approved and that Knight has already received our portion of the matching funds. I suspect that by the time your reading this the chapter will have received the balance from AFSA and the check to Knight will be in the mail. Look for an article in Sprinkler Age about our efforts.
Back in mid summer the Bremerton Housing Authority, the Kitsap County Fire Marshal’s Office and the Washington Sprinkler Coalition staged a side by side demonstration burn in a real four-plex. Member company Sprinx Fire donated the sprinkler systems in the two units equipped with sprinklers. The burn went off as planned and without a hitch dramatically demonstrating the value of sprinklers to all the attendees including several municipal officials. In fact one city council member from a local community who was adamantly opposed to sprinklers before the demonstration did a 180 degreer and commented to me as she was leaving, “We have to have these in ….” The Washington Fire Sprinkler Coalition used some of the money you provided them through a matching grant to promote sprinklers to cover the costs of filming the event. To that end a student film crew, led by a professional producer, filmed and edited a short film that is wrought with all the emotional pathos that fire loss instills and the value of sprinklers in mitigating that loss. I’ll have a few copies for the next meeting and I’ll be having my first attempt at posting something to You Tube. If successful (I’ll get a kid to help) I’ll post a link on our website and also send out a notice to members in good standing.
Which brings us to chapter dues. Dues be do. If you’re currently a chapter member you’ve received your bill for 2010 and happily a couple of you have already ponied
up. Dues are, as last year, $250.00 for 2010 as approved by the members at the August meeting. As usual AHJs are exempt from dues but I do ask that AHJs that wish to be on this mailing list let me know. It just helps for managing the database.
Bill talked about almost having the new jurisdictional/permit book together. He says there’s lots of new stuff.
There was a discussion about having at least one annual Contractors Only meeting. Since most of you getting this email ay contractors what do you think? I’ll try to get that same kid to help me set up one of those voting email things.
There was the usual discussions about CYA when doing inspections. Lots of good war stories about disasters from not doing proper CYA and how to CYA were exchanged. Just another good reason to come to the meetings. But even in these hard times, or in spite of them, the room was packed and I think in the future I’m going to have to insist on RSVPs. The poor waiter was run ragged.
David Asplund from RASCO showed an FM fire test film about Control Mode Special Application (CMSA) sprinklers and gave a talk about FMs proposed changes to how they’ll be dealing with storage facilities. I’ve been fortunate to have been kept informed of FM’s concern with storage since the large drop sprinklers did not perform as expected in the new test facility and how looking for the answer to that anomaly has led to a whole new approach for thinking about storage. David brought us up to date with what the likely future will like at when dealing with FM properties, and I’d suspect that NFPA will follow suit.
Jeff Livaudais, the new membership guru from AFSA joined us and told us how things looked from the AFSA point of view. And things look promising from there. Of course there’s some tough times still ahead but the more flexible merit shop will come out on top. Currently there are a lot of benefits for members having to do with reduced costs for various AFSA services as well as those that come free as a benefit of membership.
The meeting was adjourned around 9 PM. Members present:
Shelly Brown. Kevin Kane, Randy Knighton, Roger White, Bill McKay, Ashton Wolfe, Jeff ? (w/Ashton), Joe Faulkner, Bill Cook, Rick Sigmen, Chuck Bamford, Mike Fitz, Bill Cunningham, Dianna Nausley, Patti White, Jeff Livaudais, David Asplund, Jose Butriago & Ron Greenman

Summer 2009 Newsletter

Members Present:

Shelly Brown-Ferguson, Kevin Kane-Viking SupplyNet, Randy Knighton-Knight Fire, Bill McKay-Advanced Fire, Ashton Wolfe-Wolfe Heating & Fire, Chris Russell, Security Solutions NW, Steve Wilson-Vanport Fire, Joe Wilson-Vanport Fire, Chuck Bamford-Bamford & Assoc., Mike Balsey-Advanced Fire, Steve Muncy-AFSA, Mark Hoyt-Lubrizol, Richard Mack-Riverside Fire Authority, Chuck Duffy-State Fire Marshal’s Office, Roger White-Knight Fire, Ron Greenman-Bates Technical College

Randy opened the meeting at the appointed time although we all thought he was going to be late. Fooled us. The first topic of discussion as might be imagined was the state of the economy. At the moment Washington is doing better than other parts of the country but we’re starting to slip. This isn’t unusual since we always tend to be behind the curve of the economic ups and downs. Noticed by everyone is the high number of generals bidding every job. Bill mentioned that Federal recovery money is starting to become available in the construction sector. Joe Wilson reported that the only thing going on in the Portland area was a few apartment complexes. Several members noted seeing an increasing amount of out of state GCs bidding in Washington.

I had brought several administrative issues to the table. I suggested a separate Executive Board meeting each year apart from the general membership meetings to discuss strategies and issues that might be taken to the membership at large. Since the dinner meetings are mostly information exchanges there isn’t a lot of time for any real new business. The idea was approved. These will be open meetings and the entire membership will be notified of date, time and location. All members are welcome, but remember that these meetings may be irregular and ad hoc in nature so notification might be on short notice and they are for the purpose of better conducting the business of the chapter.

I brought up our current treasury (I don’t want to publish this information but if you’re a member and are interested you may call me and I’ll be happy to let you know) and noted we have returned from the abyss. I suggested that we might want to reconsider our dues structure. The members present unanimously voted to keep the current structure in place. The idea here is that we may now be able to get back into scholarships or the baseball tournament or what have you. Speaking of which, if you have an activity you’d like to see happen let me know and I’ll take it to the Executive Board meeting.

I brought up we were required by AFSA to have a membership chairman to meet our obligations as a chapter. I also suggested that the job fall on the immediate past president/chairman. Everybody liked that except Bill who made a big phony commotion and then graciously accepted.

We voted positively on accepting the “New Incentives for Chapter Staffing” and the responsibilities that that will incur. Since most of the latter falls on me, and I’ve been doing most of these things already, it’s pretty much a wash.

Prior to the meeting the Executive Committee (Randy, Ashton & Kevin) agreed to make the meeting fee for AHJs a flat $25.00. This should make it easier for AHJs to attend since they will know the cost ahead of time. The rest of us are still on a sliding scale.

The members attending voted to sponsor my trip to the AFSA Convention in San Diego this coming October. The last one I attended was in 2000 when I took on the Executive Director job for the Chapter. Thanks to all the PacNW Chaopter members.

The wage surveys are not out yet. If any of you get one please let me know so I can notify the other members. This is important and as fitter licensing in Washington kicks in it may end up being of great benefit to open shops. There was a long discussion about licensing. There may be a silver lining.

The Washington Sprinkler Coalition (Ashton is our rep) participated in a couple of side by side burns in a quadraplex slated for demolition. The demonstration was a huge success, turning the opinion of at least one elected city official completely around from a flat “they just cost too much even if they’re free” attitude to a “we gotta have these” change of heart. The main participants included South Kitsap Fire, Bremerton Fire, the Kitsap County Fire Marshal’s Office, Bremerton Housing Authority and Sprinx Fire. A film crew from Bates Technical College recorded the event and a short DVD is in post production. What I’ve seen so far is pretty good. It will be ready by our next meeting and I’ll try to have 25 or so copies to distribute to the members.

Steve Muncy, President of AFSA, was up next and he talked about the national economy, the state of AFSA,  and the state of the industry. 2008 was very good for AFSA, as were previous years. 2009 is not so good but because of judicious policies during the good times the health of AFSA as an organization is good. The industry itself, due to projects already funded, is behind the economic situation of the rest of the country by about six to eight months. California, Florida, Nevada and Michigan are hurting badly.

The homebuilders are doing their damnedest to make sure residential sprinklers do not become mandatory. To that end they are mounting an effort to overthrow the last ICC floor vote at this years ICC convention in Baltimore. Something new from ICC though. You now only need be a member, not an official also, to vote. If you can get to Baltimore and are an ICC member do so and vote. If you can get to Baltimore and aren’t an ICC member then join, go, and vote. If you can imagine North Dakota and Texas have adopted laws that make it illegal for a local jurisdiction to require residential sprinklers even if the state adopts the 2009 IRC with the residential provisions intact. I believe these are both home rule states!

AFSA has some pretty spectacular deals running as well as a lot of information you need. Go to their website at http://www.firesprinkler.org or to ours, http://www.afsanw.org, and click on the AFSA link.

I urge you to not let your AFSA membership lapse. It’s in hard times when solidarity of purpose and the ability to share ideas are most important and beneficial. While you’re cost cutting and streamlining consider AFSA membership as necessary to your business as insurance, fleet maintenance and fuel. You want the best prices and value but you you know you need to them all.

So everybody was well fed and the meeting broke up. The next regularly scheduled meeting of the AFSA Pacific Northwest Chapter will be held at the 13 Coins in SeaTac at 6:30 PM on Tuesday, 10 November 2009.

Summer 2009 Newsletter

Members Present:

Shelly Brown-Ferguson, Kevin Kane-Viking SupplyNet, Randy Knighton-Knight Fire, Bill McKay-Advanced Fire, Ashton Wolfe-Wolfe Heating & Fire, Chris Russell, Security Solutions NW, Steve Wilson-Vanport Fire, Joe Wilson-Vanport Fire, Chuck Bamford-Bamford & Assoc., Mike Balsey-Advanced Fire, Steve Muncy-AFSA, Mark Hoyt-Lubrizol, Richard Mack-Riverside Fire Authority, Chuck Duffy-State Fire Marshal’s Office, Roger White-Knight Fire, Ron Greenman-Bates Technical College

Randy opened the meeting at the appointed time although we all thought he was going to be late. Fooled us. The first topic of discussion as might be imagined was the state of the economy. At the moment Washington is doing better than other parts of the country but we’re starting to slip. This isn’t unusual since we always tend to be behind the curve of the economic ups and downs. Noticed by everyone is the high number of generals bidding every job. Bill mentioned that Federal recovery money is starting to become available in the construction sector. Joe Wilson reported that the only thing going on in the Portland area was a few apartment complexes. Several members noted seeing an increasing amount of out of state GCs bidding in Washington.

I had brought several administrative issues to the table. I suggested a separate Executive Board meeting each year apart from the general membership meetings to discuss strategies and issues that might be taken to the membership at large. Since the dinner meetings are mostly information exchanges there isn’t a lot of time for any real new business. The idea was approved. These will be open meetings and the entire membership will be notified of date, time and location. All members are welcome, but remember that these meetings may be irregular and ad hoc in nature so notification might be on short notice and they are for the purpose of better conducting the business of the chapter.

I brought up our current treasury (I don’t want to publish this information but if you’re a member and are interested you may call me and I’ll be happy to let you know) and noted we have returned from the abyss. I suggested that we might want to reconsider our dues structure. The members present unanimously voted to keep the current structure in place. The idea here is that we may now be able to get back into scholarships or the baseball tournament or what have you. Speaking of which, if you have an activity you’d like to see happen let me know and I’ll take it to the Executive Board meeting.

I brought up we were required by AFSA to have a membership chairman to meet our obligations as a chapter. I also suggested that the job fall on the immediate past president/chairman. Everybody liked that except Bill who made a big phony commotion and then graciously accepted.

We voted positively on accepting the “New Incentives for Chapter Staffing” and the responsibilities that that will incur. Since most of the latter falls on me, and I’ve been doing most of these things already, it’s pretty much a wash.

Prior to the meeting the Executive Committee (Randy, Ashton & Kevin) agreed to make the meeting fee for AHJs a flat $25.00. This should make it easier for AHJs to attend since they will know the cost ahead of time. The rest of us are still on a sliding scale.

The members attending voted to sponsor my trip to the AFSA Convention in San Diego this coming October. The last one I attended was in 2000 when I took on the Executive Director job for the Chapter. Thanks to all the PacNW Chaopter members.

The wage surveys are not out yet. If any of you get one please let me know so I can notify the other members. This is important and as fitter licensing in Washington kicks in it may end up being of great benefit to open shops. There was a long discussion about licensing. There may be a silver lining.

The Washington Sprinkler Coalition (Ashton is our rep) participated in a couple of side by side burns in a quadraplex slated for demolition. The demonstration was a huge success, turning the opinion of at least one elected city official completely around from a flat “they just cost too much even if they’re free” attitude to a “we gotta have these” change of heart. The main participants included South Kitsap Fire, Bremerton Fire, the Kitsap County Fire Marshal’s Office, Bremerton Housing Authority and Sprinx Fire. A film crew from Bates Technical College recorded the event and a short DVD is in post production. What I’ve seen so far is pretty good. It will be ready by our next meeting and I’ll try to have 25 or so copies to distribute to the members.

Steve Muncy, President of AFSA, was up next and he talked about the national economy, the state of AFSA,  and the state of the industry. 2008 was very good for AFSA, as were previous years. 2009 is not so good but because of judicious policies during the good times the health of AFSA as an organization is good. The industry itself, due to projects already funded, is behind the economic situation of the rest of the country by about six to eight months. California, Florida, Nevada and Michigan are hurting badly.

The homebuilders are doing their damnedest to make sure residential sprinklers do not become mandatory. To that end they are mounting an effort to overthrow the last ICC floor vote at this years ICC convention in Baltimore. Something new from ICC though. You now only need be a member, not an official also, to vote. If you can get to Baltimore and are an ICC member do so and vote. If you can get to Baltimore and aren’t an ICC member then join, go, and vote. If you can imagine North Dakota and Texas have adopted laws that make it illegal for a local jurisdiction to require residential sprinklers even if the state adopts the 2009 IRC with the residential provisions intact. I believe these are both home rule states!

AFSA has some pretty spectacular deals running as well as a lot of information you need. Go to their website at http://www.firesprinkler.org or to ours, http://www.afsanw.org, and click on the AFSA link.

I urge you to not let your AFSA membership lapse. It’s in hard times when solidarity of purpose and the ability to share ideas are most important and beneficial. While you’re cost cutting and streamlining consider AFSA membership as necessary to your business as insurance, fleet maintenance and fuel. You want the best prices and value but you you know you need to them all.

So everybody was well fed and the meeting broke up. The next regularly scheduled meeting of the AFSA Pacific Northwest Chapter will be held at the 13 Coins in SeaTac at 6:30 PM on Tuesday, 10 November 2009.

Spring 2009 Newsletter

Members Present:

 

Bill McKay-Advanced Fire, Roger White-Knight Fire, Randy Knighton-Knight Fire, Ken Sirak-Victaulic,  Joe Faulkner-Sprinx,  Chuck Paradis-Sprinx,  Kevin Kane-Viking Supply Net, Ron Greenman-Bates Technical College, Chuck Bamford-Bamford & associates

 

Randy opened the meeting promptly at 6:30. The obvious big topic was the economy. Everyone noted that competition was beyond fierce with cut-to-the-bone bids and underbidding going to  20-40% below costs, and not just due to target money infusions on the union side of the industry. Apparently some contractors must think paying to do the work is better than not having the work. Here we go again. What kind of bar will this set this time when the economy recovers?

 

The low turn-out to this meeting was disappointing and commented upon. This is not the time to try to be frugal by skipping an expensive meal once a quarter. Probably won’t have much effect on your bottom line and those that regularly attend can vouch that this newsletter only touches on the highlights of the useful information that gets shared at our meetings. I think that many will agree, and that I can say unequivocally that when times are good these meetings are a lot of fun–have a few drinks, a good meal and yuk it up with your friends–but when times are tough they’re essential. Off the soapbox!

 

The Employee Free Choice Act was discussed and, at least in this industry and probably most, this legislation is opposed by both union and non-union employers. The point was made that the unions do not provide employment, contractors do.

 

Several of the members noted that they were hanging in there and lay-offs had been kept to a minimum but they also noted that things looked like they’d be getting worse before they got better. Ken Sirak said that Victaulic had laid off about 300 people internationally. Randy said that there was a good management article in Sprinkler Age (Mea culpa–I didn’t note which issue but I seem to recall either April or May so you’ll have to look through both). 

 

Fitter licensing in this state is up an running. We all hope you’ve done the necessary to have your workers papered. Testing will start for new guys in September but that may be mute in the current economy.

 

The Level 1 Certificate of Competency for design is no longer available for testing for the time being. The State test has been compromised and so the SFM has temporarily closed that door pending a decision on how to proceed. NICET seems to be where we’re headed.

 

The March edition of Sprinkler Age has an article on changes to NFPA 13 for the 2010 edition.

 

Watch your specs very carefully. Knight Fire had a job where, due to the light construction methods employed for the structure, no lifts were allowed on the second floor. This type of construction is increasing in popularity so be aware and add appropriate wording to your standard proposals.

 

Compatibility issues with plastic continue to be a concern. Kevin noted that the manufacturers are getting closer to a solution regarding the plastic/steel problems. Jobsite issues are still a big problem so make sure that you post your “Be Careful” notices in your documentation  and to the owners/owner reps and GCs.

 

NAHB/BIA has been successful in several states in getting their latest strategy to thwart residential sprinklers into law. Rather than try to have the two paragraphs in the IRC that mandate residential sprinklers removed at the State level they are instead having laws enacted that prohibit local jurisdictions from adopting laws mandating sprinklers. If they get these enacted before the states adopt the IRC then the prohibitive law becomes the precedent law due to age (a day seems to be enough) and then any local adoption of the code must excise the residential sprinkler requirement. Lawyers, lawyers, lawyers.

 

For about a year and a half I’ve been trying to get us recognized with the IRS as a non-profit in our own right. We used to be under the umbrella of the national organization’s status but due to some new reporting legislation that was no longer possible. I’m happy to say that we were finally granted that status and that the IRS accepted our returns, basically punctuating the decision. 

 

The meting adjourned and we all went home. The next meeting will be held at the SeaTac 133 Coins at 6:30 PM, as usual, on Tuesday, 11 August 2009. Steve Muncy, president of AFSA, will be our guest.

 

 

 

 

Spring 2009 Newsletter

Members Present: Bill McKay-Advanced Fire, Roger White-Knight Fire, Randy Knighton-Knight Fire, Ken Sirak-Victaulic, Joe Faulkner-Sprinx, Chuck Paradis-Sprinx, Kevin Kane-Viking Supply Net, Ron Greenman-Bates Technical College, Chuck Bamford-Bamford & associates

Randy opened the meeting promptly at 6:30.

The obvious big topic was the economy. Everyone noted that competition was beyond fierce with cut-to-the-bone bids and underbidding going to 20-40% below costs, and not just due to target money infusions on the union side of the industry. Apparently some contractors must think paying to do the work is better than not having the work. Here we go again. What kind of bar will this set this time when the economy recovers?

The low turn-out to this meeting was disappointing and commented upon. This is not the time to try to be frugal by skipping an expensive meal once a quarter. Probably won’t have much effect on your bottom line and those that regularly attend can vouch that this newsletter only touches on the highlights of the useful information that gets shared at our meetings. I think that many will agree, and that I can say unequivocally that when times are good these meetings are a lot of fun–have a few drinks, a good meal and yuk it up with your friends–but when times are tough they’re essential. Off the soapbox!

The Employee Free Choice Act was discussed and, at least in this industry and probably most, this legislation is opposed by both union and non-union employers. The point was made that the unions do not provide employment, contractors do.

Several of the members noted that they were hanging in there and lay-offs had been kept to a minimum but they also noted that things looked like they’d be getting worse before they got better. Ken Sirak said that Victaulic had laid off about 300 people internationally. Randy said that there was a good management article in Sprinkler Age (Mea culpa–I didn’t note which issue but I seem to recall either April or May so you’ll have to look through both).

Fitter licensing in this state is up an running. We all hope you’ve done the necessary to have your workers papered. Testing will start for new guys in September but that may be mute in the current economy. The Level 1 Certificate of Competency for design is no longer available for testing for the time being. The State test has been compromised and so the SFM has temporarily closed that door pending a decision on how to proceed. NICET seems to be where we’re headed.

The March edition of Sprinkler Age has an article on changes to NFPA 13 for the 2010 edition.

Watch your specs very carefully. Knight Fire had a job where, due to the light construction methods employed for the structure, no lifts were allowed on the second floor. This type of construction is increasing in popularity so be aware and add appropriate wording to your standard proposals.

Compatibility issues with plastic continue to be a concern. Kevin noted that the manufacturers are getting closer to a solution regarding the plastic/steel problems. Jobsite issues are still a big problem so make sure that you post your “Be Careful” notices in your documentation and to the owners/owner reps and GCs.

NAHB/BIA has been successful in several states in getting their latest strategy to thwart residential sprinklers into law. Rather than try to have the two paragraphs in the IRC that mandate residential sprinklers removed at the State level they are instead having laws enacted that prohibit local jurisdictions from adopting laws mandating sprinklers. If they get these enacted before the states adopt the IRC then the prohibitive law becomes the precedent law due to age (a day seems to be enough) and then any local adoption of the code must excise the residential sprinkler requirement. Lawyers, lawyers, lawyers.

For about a year and a half I’ve been trying to get us recognized with the IRS as a non-profit in our own right. We used to be under the umbrella of the national organization’s status but due to some new reporting legislation that was no longer possible. I’m happy to say that we were finally granted that status and that the IRS accepted our returns, basically punctuating the decision.

The meting adjourned and we all went home.

The next meeting will be held at the SeaTac 133 Coins at 6:30 PM, as usual, on Tuesday, 11 August 2009. Steve Muncy, president of AFSA, will be our guest.

Winter 2009 Newsletter

Members Present:

Ken Sirac Victaulic
Steve Hobart Simplex/Grinnell
Roger White Knight Fire
Randy Knighton Knight Fire
Bill McKay Advanced Fire
Michael Fitz MDE
Dave Suchy Wolfe Fire
Ashton Wolfe Wolfe Fire
Kevin Kane Viking Supplynet
Joe Faulkner Sprinx
Mark Hoyt Lubrizol
Ron Greenman Bates Technical College

The meeting started at 6:30 PM as scheduled.

Bill went over the minutes from last meeting. Bill and Ashton then discussed the ongoing Jurisdiction Database. This will be a centralized location where our members can go to get the latest info about jurisdictions in our area. The idea will be similar to Wikipedia where members can upgrade info like permit fee increases, new local ordinances, etc. as they are encountered. By doing this we can help each other avoid surprises.

Bill then reported that the State Fire Marshal was starting to mail out the new installer/trainee cards. He then introduced our new officers, Randy Knighton, Chair, Ashton Wolfe, Vice Chair, and Kevin Kane, Secretary/Teasurer and turned the meeting over to Randy. Following a round of applause for Bill Randy took the chair.

A report on the recent Fire Marshal’s Forum was given. Topics at the Forum included licensing, pumps underground and residential issues.

The installer/trainee issue came up again and everyone was reminded to get the applications for their people into the State Fire Marshal’s office before the end of March.

The “Employee Free Choice Act” was the next topic and the consensus was that everyone needed to get educated on this issue. Information can be found of the AFSA website.

Another consensus topic was that in these recessionary times it was more important than ever to keep up with collections. Cash flow is what keeps the wheels of your company turning. Bill also brought up that as painful as it might be to lay employees off if it’s necessary to keep your company healthy than it will be better to do so.

The members present then voted to support the Washington Residential Fire Sprinkler Coalition with a donation of $1250.00 augmented by an application for a matching grant from the AFSA National organization. (The grant was approved and the money is in our possession.) The Coalition’s goal is to monitor and stop any attempts by the NAHB/BIA to excise the new residential sprinkler requirements from the 2009 IRC when it’s adopted by the State. The money supplied by us and the local NFSA chapter will be used to defray any expenses incurred in this effort.

There was a reminder that it’s important to get information regarding chemical compatibility with plastic pipe to owners and GCs. Forewarning them that some construction chemicals can damage plastic pipe will hopefully forestall later problems and lower your liability if plastic does come in contact with incompatible products.

The meeting was then adjourned.

The next meeting will be on Tuesday, May 12th.

Fall 2008 Newsletter

Call to order at 6:30 by Bill McKay.

The first order of business was membership. As anyone getting this newsletter already knows the active members of the Pacific NW Chapter of the AFSA have assessed themselves an annual dues of $250.00. You should have all received a notification and invoice for your 2009 dues by now. Remember that you need to be a member of the AFSA national organization to be a member of this chapter. Remember that you are responsible for dues to both organizations. Remember that the dues amount is per company and not per individual. Remember that the dues for this chapter must be made out to AFSA/PacNW Chapter and mailed to me (the address is on your invoice) with the invoice by the last working day of 2008. The membership at the fall meeting, held on 11 November, voted a $50.00 late fee to anyone submitting their membership dues after 1 January 2009so that deadline has some meaning. This of course does not apply to new members but only to current members that are late. Remember that this is the last newsletter you will receive if you are not a member in good standing for 2009. Remember that AHJs can receive the newsletter just by asking but if you don’t ask…. Current members in good standing for 2009 are:

Advanced Fire

Commercial Fire

Fire Protection Systems

Inland Empire Fire

Inland Fire

Knight Fire

Plumbco

Simplex/Grinnell

Sprinx Fire

Wolfe Heat and Fire

AHJs are:

Diane Hansen–Seattle FD

Chuck Koval–GSA

Bob Lovett–Redmond FD

Brian Nixon– US Navy NAVFAC and too many other letters to list

Anybody else  out there–you have a little more than a month.

Next we’re having elections. We have openings for Chair, Vice Chair and Secretary/Trreasurer.  Each position will serve for two years. Current candidates are as follows:

Chair–Randy Knighton

Vice Chair–Ashton Wolfe

Sec/Treas–Jim Stewart, Mike Frazione & Kevin Kane

Nominations are open until the end of the year so if you’d like to run or nominate someone you have about 30 days to let me know. Sometime in January I’ll send out a special balloting mailing to the members.

Bill says the L&I wage survey will be coming soon-maybe January or February. We’ll keep you informed.

There should also be a statement soon from the AG relating to the use of union dues from prevailing wage jobs for subsidizing non-public work.

The “co-op” insurance program is nearing completion.

The mission statement for our chapter has been voted on and reads: Members helping members improve.

The “Permit Book” is being compiled by Ashton and he will be getting in touch with folks for help.

Discussion of the scholarship initiative was tabled until the winter meeting.

Discussion of the baseball tournament was tabled until the winter meeting.

If you haven’t heard the 2009 IRC will have a requirement that all single family dwellings, duplexes and townhouses will be required to have sprinklers beginning in January of 2011. Now the war to make sure it’s adopted in our NW states begins. Already the NAHB/BIA has its proxy agents fighting against it. See the attached letter from WABO to the ICC.

Everybody that went agreed that the AFSA convention was a smashing success.

Lots more about CPVC. Keep up with dos and don’ts. There’s apparently a new problem with a certain type of CPVC made in Canada. There’s also a potential problem with the chemicals used to mitigate against MIC attacking the CPVC in steel/plastic systems.

There’s a lot of confusion regarding the new installer/trainee certification at the State level. The one sure thing though is that you need to get your installers and trainees registered by the first of the year. If you’re unsure of what you need to do contact the State Fire Marshal’s office. Don’t procrastinate on this one.

Bill reported that the new NICET testing protocol will be starting the first of the year.

Lloyd Ivy was our guest and as usual he gave us insight into AFSA membership. There are nationwide 826 AFSA contractor members and 207 associate members. He also mentioned that AFSA was working on more streamlined communication strategies that should make exchanging information between AFSA and contractors quicker. Finally Lloyd announced he’d be retiring at the end of the year. I’ll certainly miss his annual visits. He’s been a great asset to AFSA and our chapter.

And last but not least Randy Siegmund announced his retirement from Kennedy. I can’t remember when I didn’t know Randy. I’ll be missing him to.

Members present:

Ashton Wolfe WHF

Bill Mckay Advanced

Jim Stewart Advanced

Mike Balsey Advanced

Roger White Knight

Randy Knighton Knight

Herb Canon Knight

Bill Cunnungham Plumbco

Dennis Skinner FPS

Mike Fragione FPS

Kevin Kane Viking Supply Net

Randy Siegmund Kennedy Valve

Jim Akers Kennedy Valve

Chuck Bamford Bamford Inc.

Steve Hobart Simplex/Grinnell

Herb Schairbaum Bluewater

Chris Johnson Bluewater

Chris Russell Security Solutions

Ken Sirak Victaulic

Lloyd Ivy AFSA

Ron Greenman Bates Technical College

Happy Thanksgiving–See you all next year.